noncomprehending prepper Re Vietnamese bushcraftess

asians are, feel and think different ... perhaps to them a thumbnail copy is an expression of belonging, aspiration and/or admiration ... a tribute, not theft.

If they make copies of their channels, diluting rankings and so on ... it's perhaps cause they look at the throttling of viral / taboo subjects in the west where the grounding was 'let go of' / lost! in the nineteenth century under pressure of 'feminotional' personification and anthropofixation .. asfixiates and short circuits the wider chain of beings, sacriligious corner cutting for quick profits to the point of present toxicity levels finishing the invasive phase and present as inescapable [to those with the courage to look]. Whitie captured by a desert death cult of 'DYSCERNMENT

 

 

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 FAKE CHANNELS - Bushcrafter reaction to Vietnamese woman bushcraft and survival skills
Robs Bushcraft Commentary
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I was surprised by how many fake channels I found while researching for this video. Bushcraft and survival skills by a Vietnamese woman with a dog and monkey 🙄 Primitive fishing, trap making.

If you want to check out the original video that I commentated on and reacted to in this video you can check out her video from her channel "Wild Beauty / Off Grid" here:    • Detecting wild boar - craft some primitive...  

If you'd like to check out my bushcraft channel you can head to Robs Bushcraft and Adventures here:    / @robsbushcraftandadventures   

AGAIN ... 

asians are, feel and think different ... perhaps to them a thumbnail copy is an expression of belonging, aspiration and/or admiration ... a tribute, not  theft. 
If they make copies of their channels, diluting rankings and so on ... it's perhaps cause they look at the throttling of viral / taboo subjects in the west where the grounding was 'let go of' / lost! in the nineteenth century under pressure of 'feminotional' personification and anthropofixation .. asfixiates and short circuits the wider chain of beings, sacriligious corner cutting for quick profits to the point of present toxicity levels finishing the invasive phase and present as inescapable [to those with the courage to look]. Whitie captured by a desert death cult of 'Dyscernment'

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_0RBCQmbtY
my vietbomb 

Nick Land Responds to Tucker Carlson

follow up to previous post: 

https://rotsstof.blogspot.com/2025/10/nick-land-discussed-at-compact-mag.html

 Various Things That Are Really Significant To This Administration. You 1:02:14 Know, He He Kind Of Wants To Argue You Can Have A Kind Of Radical Free Market Liberalism But In One Country Like The 1:02:20 Anglosphere Can Have Radical Free Market Liberalism But Then You Know You Can 1:02:26 Protect That Within Tariff Walls I Guess And Then You Know Russian Society Can 1:02:31 Have Another Economic Order That's More Reflective Of Its Sort Of Ethnicultural 1:02:37 Uh Disposition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFAjIB8Uwtc
 Hard Landing
Compact Magazine
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Two years have pass since the start of the war between Hamas and Israel, Trump battles with Chicago and Portland over the deployment of National Guard troops, and philosopher Nick Land stirs up controversy. Ashley Frawley and Geoff Shullenberger join Matthew Schmitz.

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CARLSON FLYNN LAND

top 'bilin' on my search is a short reffed, clean thing by an islamist
https://bliis.org/essay/nick-land-accelerationism-and-techno-occultism/



PD on epiwar .. fiskin carlson on jews .. his daddie was jewish .. but it's britpire gins' poah liddul joooowz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYOu7zlPSSs
done 1h22 of 2h11


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riEmAfKm3gI
34s Flynn: Land "less intesting" once he discovered Lilly [the dolphin mkultra guy]

.. the episode linked at beforeitsnews.com which also makes first page on ddg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0twXWWdt9NU
Nick Land Responds to Tucker Carlson
The Dangerous Maybe
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In this episode, I'm once again joined by Nance and Nick Land. Here, Nick shares his thoughts on the Tucker Carlson video we were mentioned in. In that video, Tucker interviewed Conrad Flynn about Nick's ideas on the occult, capitalism and artificial intelligence (the title of that video is 'The Occult, Kabbalah, the Antichrist’s Newest Manifestation, and How to Avoid the Mark of the Beast' — I'll share the link below). At one point, Conrad mentions the video Nance, Nick and I did on the Numogram (link below). What follows is Nick's response to Tucker and Conrad. 

Tucker Carlson: The Occult, Kabbalah, the Antichrist’s New...  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_czibJylWs&t=4000s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J86C4IJTaFw
Nick Land vs. Aleksandr Dugin Debate | Guests: Nick Land and Aleksandr Dugin | 10/6/25
Auron MacIntyre
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Nick Land discussed at Compact Mag

earlier Ashley on this blog almost a month ago: 

https://rotsstof.blogspot.com/2025/09/my-fave-thus-far-by-dr-ashley-frawley.html 

One 36:07 of the funniest things that's occurred in the kind of gradual excavation of 36:15 countless littleknown right-wing thinkers since 2015 is the sudden 36:20 emergence of Nick Land on the uh Tucker Carlson show. 36:27 um not not an appearance by him but instead an explanation of his work uh as 36:33 a window onto our you know present situation. So Jeeoff what what is the um 36:42 purported relevance of Nick Land in terms of the account of him that's being presented to a mass audience and then 36:48 what's your own understanding of his work? So Nickland is in the limelight because of an interview 36:56 on Tucker Carlson's show with a guy named Conrad Flynn, who I'd never heard of before, but seems to be somebody who 37:02 thinks that various elites, including Hollywood elites and tech industry elites, are involved in some sort of 37:08 occult esoteric religious practice and belief and 37:14 specifically are attempting to channel demons. Now, you know that this this would lead us 37:21 down a whole other rabbit hole because there are plenty of other people who think this, but um I had not come across 37:27 Flynn's particular version of it. What's notable here is that he gives pride of place to Nick land 37:33 because he argues land is incredibly influential in Silicon Valley. 37:39 And basically he shows Tucker a uh a graph which was 37:47 designed by Land and some of his collaborators in the '9s that they called a numog which is essentially a 37:54 kind of cobalistic numerological chart although it looks a little bit like um 38:00 like some kind of um you know circuit diagram. So it it could it could be 38:06 mistaken for a kind of technological or technical graph, but it's which which I think you 38:13 know and and this kind of gets to the point is part of the point. It's it's both a tech it looks like a technical 38:19 graph, but it is also a kind of occult uh numerological 38:25 depiction of some sort of or or an instrument for conjuring some sort of um 38:32 entities from the beyond. And so Flynn's basic argument to Tucker is that 38:38 land for several decades is a figure, a sort of cult philosopher who has argued 38:44 that the the significance of the emergence of artificial intelligence is that it is a kind of channeling of other 38:50 worldly, you know, perhaps demonic or spiritual entities. 38:56 and that many people in Silicon Valley read and are interested in land and Flynn 39:04 concludes, you know, therefore many of the people in Silicon Valley are themselves attempting to use AI to 39:10 essentially summon up demons. So, and indeed he has a few pieces of evidence 39:15 for this because uh Elon Musk himself has said at various points that when we, 39:21 you know, build AI, we are summoning the demon. So this is this is a kind of theme that you've seen. It also ties 39:28 into recent uh discussion around uh you know t sort of Elon Musk's fellow PayPal 39:36 founder Peter Teal being very interested in the figure of the antichrist. And so 39:41 this kind of spiritual dimension of AI discourse has has come to light in in 39:48 various ways recently. So what was interesting about this Tucker episode was that, you know, many 39:53 people who are part of or privy to certain online subcultures were just 39:58 shocked by the image of Carl. You know, there's an already very memeified image of Tucker holding this numog, which is 40:06 kind of an iconic image from Nick Lan's output and just looking in his typical 40:11 puzzled way at it. And so this has become a kind of meme. And I suppose what was what was notable here was the 40:17 kind of mainstreaming of this this cult sort of underground figure, 40:22 you know, through his um appearance on this, you know, mainstream conservative show. 40:28 So, you know, who is Nick Land? Nick Land, interestingly, starts his career 40:34 as a what what might be, you know, derisively called by some on the right a 40:40 postmodern neo-Marxist, we might say. He basically is is interested in the work 40:47 of various French uh philosophers most notably uh 40:53 Jill Duloo and Felix Guatari who in the 1970s write this pair of books 41:00 anti-edipus and a thousand plateaus that attempts to kind of reformulate the 41:08 the theories of of specifically Marx and Freud. and put them on a new footing. 41:16 And you know for our purposes what's important is that many people in the 1990s are and so they you know introduce 41:23 v dul andqatari introduced various concepts including the virtual which they're thinking about really before it 41:29 becomes a way of talking about technology. Um they're interested in networks. They're interested in 41:35 decentralization uh in what they call the ryome which is a kind of network at which any point can 41:42 connect to any other point which they counterpose to what they call the arborescent structure which is that of a 41:49 a sort of hierarchy a treelike hierarchy where everything branches out from a single trunk. And so they introduce all 41:57 these concepts and then the 90s many of these sort of academic philosophers land 42:02 among them start applying them and using them to think about what's going on in the digital sphere. And so that's really 42:10 where land kind of first comes into the conversation about technology. 42:16 But whereas many of the people who take this kind of idea take it in a a sort of 42:22 in the direction of essentially the kind of left-wing anti-globalization movement of the 1990s. And here I'd note the 42:29 figures of Michael Hart and Antonio Negri who write the best-selling book 42:34 empire published in 2000 who are really you know likewise kind of taking the 42:40 ideas from Doo and Guatari about decentralized networks and you know the the shift of capitalism 42:48 to this kind of nomadic decentralized structure from which they conclude that sort of left-wing revolutionary 42:54 strategies also have to be decentralized and nomadic. And so all of these ideas end up feeding into things like the 43:00 Occupy movement with its rejection of hierarchical structures and leadership. 43:05 And so the point is a lot of these ideas about and you know this idea I think you heard a lot on the left this phrase the 43:12 disgust becomes a network uh in this period. And so the these a lot of these 43:18 ideas become part of a certain phase of the left in the 1990s and 2000s. But Lance takes it 43:26 in a very different direction which is that he ultimately uh you know in his 43:32 1990s writing he's very dismissive of sort of the old left because it's attached to the state you know this sort 43:39 of hierarchical dinosaur that is you know no longer relevant and he's very dismissive of of socialism 43:47 which he sees as a kind of attempt to constrain the proliferation the kind of unstoppable proliferation of digital 43:54 networks. And so he, you know, he outlines these ideas that later become called 44:00 accelerationism, which is essentially the idea that um, you know, the only important kind of 44:06 political cause is simply the acceleration of the 44:12 explosive tendencies of of capitalism and and the technologies attached to it. 44:19 And so the point is that he he sort of um takes these ideas in a direction that 44:25 that you know becomes really not about overthrowing capitalism but allowing 44:31 capitalism to realize its itself more fully. and he and this I'd say is where the 44:38 kind of um demonic dimension comes in because what he's interested in is the 44:44 idea that you know human cultures and societies over the course of history 44:50 have in various ways been built around trying to put the brakes on certain 44:55 runaway processes and prevent acceleration that you know essentially human societies have functioned as a 45:01 kind of stabilization system or to use the cybernetic term terminology. He he preferred a kind of um structures for 45:10 producing homeostasis, for preventing kind of runaway positive feedback cycles 45:15 as he called it. And so what he argues is that you know 45:20 ultimately you can associate this um you know the kind of taboss and and barriers 45:27 and and sort of prohibitive structures of of many societies up up to and including our own as ways of trying to 45:34 prevent these kind of runaway processes. And that you can also associate these runaway processes with some kind of 45:41 absolute outside that, you know, radically threatens and undermines, you know, what we think of 45:48 as as humanity and the human um, you know, sort of uh the human in in some 45:54 sort of stable sense. And so, you know, what he becomes interested in really sounds here like he might have in mind 46:00 um the, you know, St. Paul's epistle to the Thessalonians where you Paul talks about the the catacon or 46:06 the one who restrains um yes and there's this you know it's cryptic passage but you know there's 46:12 this idea that something is restraining the emergence of uh a kind of and you know 46:21 basically the the end of times you know there's some kind of restraining force that's holding off the apocalypse. 46:29 Correct. And so for land, you know, really the the mission at all points is is in some ways to kind of remove the 46:36 brakes from this process. And you can see this in, you know, he's not only 46:41 influenced by these philosophers, but by science fiction, specifically the works 46:46 of William Gibson and the films like Bladeunner and Terminator. And you know 46:53 maybe Terminator provides the clearest um illustration of this because for him 46:59 it's Skynet you know which is this kind of accelerative artificial intelligence that you know is the the representation 47:06 or embodiment of this kind of runaway process that you need to align yourself with. And you know this essentially 47:13 means and amounts to the the destruction of the human the destruction of humanity. 47:18 And you know for him this is something to be to be embraced basically. And so 47:24 you know and and it is something you can kind of connect to to the demonic or to 47:31 fears of the demonic. Um and so you know to to try to sum up here what what's 47:38 interesting is that you know he under goes very.... he leaves academia seems to have some sort of nervous breakdown um 47:45 ends up as an expatriate living in China but then in the early uh 2010s he 47:51 reemerges as a a participant in what was then the neo-reactionary blogosphere 47:58 and so he becomes connected to people like Curtis Yarvin and various other figures who become influential on sort 48:04 of the alt-right or the dissident right or these different strains that emerge in that period. And 48:12 what's if if you read his um his writings back then, you know, one thing 48:17 he's reflecting on is the kind of odd alliance that he is part of because he 48:22 describes himself at that point as a technocommercialist that you know essentially his his agenda 48:29 is about you know again removing the brakes allowing this kind of tech you 48:34 know technological singularity to realize itself through the operations of capital 48:40 and but he's allied with these figures who are you know basically ethnationalists and religious uh 48:48 reactionaries you know basically sort of integralist um you know sort of deis 48:53 vault types um and so he's he's often kind of puzzling over the fact of this 48:58 and you know what he basically accepts is that they all u they all have the 49:04 same enemy which is essentially you know which is what Yarvin in his mold bug era 49:10 designated as the cathedral, you know, which is basically the the sort of globalist progressive power structure 49:18 which for land the problem with which is that it is holding back ..... and and you know this does get to a kind of tension, 49:24 right? Because for him the problem is that it is holding back ..... it is it is dead set against allowing this sort of process of 49:32 capital to fully realize itself. that that for him the the cathedral the function of it is again to pro it's or 49:38 it's what he calls in his earlier work the human security system it's to create a kind of stability and homeostasis. 49:46 Now, you know, I suppose what what's kind of interesting is that many of the other reactionaries he's he's uh in 49:52 conversation with sort of think the opposite, right? They think that um the function of this of this cathedral is to 49:59 kind of dissolve traditional communities to um you know to kind of force these 50:04 new trendy things like transgender ideology on on people and so on. So, you 50:12 know, he's he's in alliance with people who really in some respects seem to think the opposite of him. And so, 50:18 that's, you know, that's kind of an odd thing about this. And so just to conclude, 50:24 you know, he's writing about this 10 years ago that like he's in alliance with these people who um on some level 50:30 agree with him that the cathedral, the the sort of globalist woke, you know, 50:35 liberal power structure is is the enemy, but at the same time who seem to interpret it in in more or less the 50:41 opposite way as him. And what's interesting to see is when Tucker is confronting him, he's doing so from I'd 50:48 say more with the perspective of the kind of religious traditionalist uh background with like a little bit of 50:55 the sort of the sort of ethnationalist side of things tinged into it. So he 51:00 really does represent these two other factions that land in his kind of radical accelerative 51:08 uh you know support for the disruptive tendencies of capitalism. 51:13 has been has been radically at odds with and you can see this at you know but has been at alliance with for all this time. 51:19 And so you can also see this in this um dialogue he did shortly after his his 51:25 the discussion of his work on Tucker with Alexander Dugan, the philosopher 51:30 associated with this sort of neo-urasian traditionalism 51:37 uh and often claimed to be a kind of leading ideologue behind Vladimir Putin's sort of national you know sort 51:44 of neoist uh or you know sort of Slavic nationalist ideology. So anyway, I made 51:50 I forced Ashley to listen to this interview or at least maybe she listened to part of it. So I'm curious if she has 51:55 any responses to the discussion between land and and Dugan. -------

----- Ashley:

 --- 52:02 Yeah. Oh, see now I find the demonology stuff interesting that you were talking. 52:08 It sounded like people were taking it literally. I thought that the demon was like capital and like the AI 52:15 technocracy. Isn't that what that is? And then he's kind of he's not literally talking about 52:23 Satan. It's like kind of like a philosophical literary way of talking about human- centered morality. 52:30 I mean description. Are there people who think he's literally

 52:35 I mean Land claims to be in ....

 or is he literally summoning? 

claims he 52:41 claims to be in communication with uh with uh interdimensional lemurs. Now, 52:48 lemurs here refers to a a story by William S. Burroughs, the ghost lemurs of Madagascar, but which in turn 52:55 connects to this um idea of a a leorian primal race that comes out of Madame 53:01 Bllatsky's, you know, sort of theosophical theories. And finally, the idea that lemur um you 53:08 know has its root in a word that in in Latin that meant ghost or spirit. And so 53:14 anyway, the point is he does sort of actually claim to be literally channeling demons. And he does also, I 53:22 think, understand capital. I mean, he understands capital as a kind of emanation of some sort of 53:28 interdimensional demonic force. And so, you know, the 53:34 reason all societies are so bent on on controlling it is because it is 53:39 fundamentally destructive and disruptive of the human because it comes from the outside. 53:47 And so that you know this is I think he takes this quite literally and you know 53:52 but for him the the demon is ultimately something that uh you know is is to be 54:00 sort of positively embraced as a as a a force that will you know push us beyond 54:06 current stasis and into this technoc capital singularity.

Ashley: 

 54:13 Do you know I ......  people like Nick Land really annoy me because although I struggle with it myself there they're 54:20 wonderful they're great philosophers who take really difficult ideas and communicate them in a clear way and then 54:26 there are philosophers who take really bad ideas and hide how bad they are by communicating them in a very unclear way 54:33 so you cannot tell whether or not they're being serious. -------------  Is he not just saying I for one uh welcome our robot 54:40 overlords? Does that not essentially like like boil it down because there's all this there's all these fears as well 54:47 in the sort of like AI doomer world that the AI is going to and doesn't have any 54:53 kind of stop built into it to stop it from using us for its own terms and that 54:59 seems to be what land is saying will happen or is happening that there is some kind of force that is using 55:06 humanity like he kind of flips instead of saying like humanity or like history is God's plan for man. Humanity is just 55:13 this raw material for this greater non-human intelligence. And this is kind of like the fear that um AI doomers have 55:20 that there's this it will you know it's it will use us for its own purposes kind of like matrix style of just like um 55:27 self preservation i.e. getting as much energy as possible to fuel itself. 55:33 So is he not just being like yeah and it's good? Yeah. Is he like the guy? 55:40 [Laughter] 

 

I I would not dispute that characterization. 55:46 Uh, you know, he's um I will say he's a very good writer. So he's, you know, I 55:53 think somebody who you can kind of learn things about the moments that he's writing in. I'd 55:59 say particularly, you know, the the 19 the 1990s he he 56:05 really um I think kind of correctly captures things about, you know, there 56:11 there's sort of all this um overwhelming optimism about the 56:17 trajectory of digital technology in that period really coming from across the political spectrum. And again 56:23 there's a kind of fetishization of decentralization and you know networks and things like 56:30 that that you can find as much on the right as on the left right as much on the really the in the establishment as 56:36 on the fringes. And so what's interesting to me is in his in his early work, he sort of takes that logic and 56:43 takes it to a very stark and sort of nightmarish place, which so it it feels 56:50 like it's kind of the bad dream or sort of nightmare version of the mainstream 56:55 positive discourse. And then, you know, in the early 2010s, 57:00 I think again, you know, we're at a high point where Silicon Valley is very aligned with like the Obama 57:06 administration. There there's again this kind of idea about digital technology being this, you 57:12 know, force for good in the world and, you know, a means of achieving all of these progressive ends and so on. So I 57:18 think again he comes in there and provides a very dark spin on the the 57:25 actual meaning of this technology which I think does you know whether you um you 57:32 know I think even if you find his evaluation of it quite disturbing and 57:38 and difficult to accept he does actually capture something that is you know being 57:43 excluded from the sort of mainstream discourse about these developments. at both these moments. So, so for that 57:50 reason I I do think he's an important figure, but he does also kind of raise 57:55 all kinds of problems for because I mean in some level I think you know the the dialogue between him and somebody like 58:00 Dugan you know Dugan has historically had a kind of connection to Steve Bannon. So, you know, to that extent he 58:07 represents a certain faction of the the Trump coalition, but then, you know, 58:13 Land is kind of tied to the techno accelerationist side of the Trump coalition. And so we actually what's 58:19 interesting is you know 10 years ago land is writing blog posts about well you know I'm in this blogosphere where 58:25 I'm like weirdly you know I just want the technoc capitalist singularity but I'm in this blogosphere with all these 58:31 people who want to like preserve traditional society and um preserve the nation and things like 58:37 that and so what does that mean and and what's interesting is now he's actually you know or his ideas have a certain 58:44 foothold in power and again that that sort of um extremely 58:51 uh difficult kind of coalition is is um attempting to govern in some form or 58:59 at least or at least pretending to. And so the question is, you know, what does it mean? Can you have a sort of a 59:06 governing philosophy that is at once kind of ethnationalist, religiously 59:11 traditionalist and technoacelerationist? And you know I I will say if you read 59:17 you know pe people can check out his his work that was published in this volume xenos systems from a decade ago I mean 59:24 he does kind of grapple with this question at length. I won't I won't summarize it all but you know it's it's 59:31 it's it it's quite prescient in the sense that I think he's he's writing from the 59:37 perspective of like wow I'm in this weird blogosphere space with all these other fringe right-wing people. Um, and 59:44 we all hate the same stuff, but we seem to think completely opposite things. And in some sense now that is the kind of 59:51 contradiction of like the governing coalition of the United States.

Ashley:

 59:58 Yeah. I just don't think he realizes how much the World Economic Forum and all the wokes that he hates are saying the 1:00:05 exact same thing as them, just with a facade of liberalism or a facade of like 1:00:10 wanting to stop. I'm not sure that they are. I don't know. I don't know. 

 

1:00:15 Yeah, you and I should we should talk about this more. I will say what? Yeah. But no, I was just going to say we 1:00:21 should talk about this more on blame theory which listeners should check out the blame theory podcast 1:00:26 because it ties into our recent series on the crisis of liberalism because I think you know one interesting about 1:00:32 Land particularly more recent Land is he's you know attempting to rescue what he calls paleoliberalism 1:00:39 you know which which is essentially and this is where you know in in some ways he's a kind of you know he he's a he's 1:00:46 one of to use Quinn Sloian's term Hex bastards. I mean, he's a he's a kind of neohayakian 1:00:52 because he wants to rescue this notion of paleoliberalism, which is just sort of unregulated markets, the invisible 1:00:59 hand, etc. um in in his interview with uh Dugan and 1:01:05 or his conversation with Dugan I believe he cites uh Gert GOETHE he talks about the invisible hand but he also cites GOETHE'S FAUST ..........  the passage where Mephostophles describes himself as um a part of that 1:01:19 force that always seeks evil but always causes good. 1:01:26 And so again, this is kind of this connection of the demon, you know, the invisible hand of capital to the 1:01:31 demonic. Um, so and I mean he makes that explicit in 1:01:37 the in the conversation with Dugan. So he, you know, he so he is essentially 1:01:44 he's trying to argue that you can isolate a kind of paleoliberalism as he calls it from all the bad stuff that 1:01:51 that comes later. And you know, I think I think you and I 1:01:57 should probably discuss this more in another context. Um, 1:02:02 but that that's kind of where where um where he fits into the discourse and and I do think he 1:02:09 he represents something in I mean there are  Various Things That Are Really Significant To This Administration. You 1:02:14 Know, He He Kind Of Wants To Argue You Can Have A Kind Of Radical Free Market Liberalism But In One Country Like The 1:02:20 Anglosphere Can Have Radical Free Market Liberalism But Then You Know You Can 1:02:26 Protect That Within Tariff Walls I Guess And Then You Know Russian Society Can 1:02:31 Have Another Economic Order That's More Reflective Of Its Sort Of Ethnicultural 1:02:37 Uh Disposition. So that that sort of seems to be where he and Dugan try to find some sort of common ground. And so 1:02:43 then the question is, okay, but can you have a liberalism that isn't about, you 1:02:49 know, that that isn't fundamentally committed to free trade? Um, 1:02:55 you know, in his current iteration, Lan sort of seems to be saying this, 1:03:01 uh, that that you can have kind of liberalism in one country to paraphrase Stalin.

 1:03:09 Yes. Uh it's yeah it's extremely interesting and actually brings to a head so many of the kind of 1:03:16 contradictions that we've been talking about in that series. So I have to think about this because there's about 17 1:03:22 different strands I've been trying to follow and uh I at the moment I feel like that meme of that guy with like all 1:03:29 the threads on the board and he's like you know connecting pictures on a board. That's what I feel like at the moment. 1:03:35 I'll have to sort through what the hell is heck is going on here. So let's let's 1:03:40 talk about this more but um yeah I don't know it's got this is what 1:03:46 happens when you accelerate the economic side without the political yeah 1:03:52 so we we'll we'll continue this discussion in blame theory so check that out everybody uh look on on your 1:03:59 favorite podcast app blame theory podcast with me and Ashley uh to be discussed 1:04:06 can you have liberalism in one CUNTTREEhousing WaldBesetzung PropJacked

And and additionally, I should also add 1:04:12 uh a couple years ago, Nick Land published a few things in the pages of 1:04:17 compact. So people can check those out. They're actually somewhat uncharacteristic of his work because 1:04:24 they're about the English literary cannon starting with the biblical translation of William Tinddale and 1:04:30 going up to the works of Joseph Conrad. So it it may be the only uh place where 1:04:37 he has written at length about sort of classic works of English literature. 1:04:43 And so that's definitely worth uh worth a read. Three three essays you can find by Nick Land in in the pages of compact 1:04:50 which I believe at this point are his most recent kind of long form writing. 

He does he does tweet, but um and and 1:04:58 they're they're striking and sort of uncharacteristic in in some ways, although also tying they do tie in in in 1:05:04 fascinating ways to some of the themes I brought up. Other than that, people should check out uh Fang Numina if 1:05:10 they're interested in understanding his work. It's a collection published by 1:05:15 Urbanomic Press uh in 2011 of his his major writings from the mostly from the 1:05:22 1990s. So uh if people want to get a deeper sense of what I was talking about there 

1:05:28 and finally people can also check out the CCRU writings 1997 to 2003 which is 1:05:34 a set of collaborative writings he did with his colleagues at the University of Warick in the late 90s into the early 1:05:42 2000s and uh they're they're extremely strange and that's where you can find out about the numogram that that appears 1:05:49 in that uh you know now iconic image of Tucker are looking very befuddled and it 1:05:55 it's the numogram. The significance of it is explained at length in that volume of CCRU writings 1997 to 2003. 1:06:04 With that, thanks to Ashley, thank you Jeff. And thank you listeners. For more, 1:06:12 go to compactmag.com/subscribe.