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All comments to an Item at Mary's (about Rabbis that hurt good neighbourly relations) so far:

Excelet article. fantastic blog. please keep up the excellent writing. Edward Ott | Homepage | 01.18.06 - 10:29 am | #

You will find quite a lot of these translated from the hebrew press at: http://www.aad-online.org/2005/ e...mainenglish.htm I particularly like the sub-section (clickable from the right hand column) 'Intellectual Extremism'. Well, I would, wouldn't I? Rowan Berkeley | 01.18.06 - 11:31 am | #

yes, AAD is good. thecutter | Homepage | 01.18.06 - 12:23 pm | #

mirrorreverse of supremacy sowing is the supremacy seeking semite; in Holland jobless Berbers are often, perhaps even mostly seen as the victim card pulling (semi-)semites (and why not? Pampering ((getting jobs making it rather difficult to save, especially if you insist on status symbols like 'merkkleding' = fancy clothes)) is torture and suffocation) living in the 'achterstandsbuurten' = sections of a city with a lag, full of 'kansarmen' = poor in choice - illustrating the all or nothing mindset that makes egoism lucrative and trying to reckon with/be accountable to all affected damn near prosecutable. Palestinians better dig up the healthy secular permacultural roots (and/or) better yet point to the permacultural shoots?) of Zionism (Palis were shown singing in greenhouses on dutch tv after the gaza evacuation) in the same way Beckerath had to sign letters with heil hitlers to ward off moronic questions about them). Nearly 2 years ago I noted that a certain similarity between soviet days and us policy was evident (rather late really if you've seen Eustace Mullins' work nearly 20 years ago). Yesterday, a beatiful man (world champ in some martial discipline) gets to say (in beautiful and real dutch, none of the rebellious intonations, no cutting gestures or anything. .. .that's not to say I would like to speak a word or two with him about agression*) that a neighbourhood on the edge of amsterdam (where I considered buying a garden 6 years ago) has 70.000 2nd generation immigrants and only one youthcenter. Right after that, our stupid ('keep us all together') type of platitude spouting Amsterdam mayor (type of jew that is dilute enough to lose some of the ugly features; same type they sent to holland to bring us the 'suit yourselves, miss the boat if you must' message regarding afghanistan missions ((the agressive ones are political unfeasible; the haggling is over clear differences between de- and constructive invasiveness all such deliberation delay caused a threat of sanctions by way of Bremer, yes, the Paulian, former dutch ambassador)) was given precious monopolisticlique mass media time to yet again apply what I call the 'thunder stealing strategy'; mouth a few more and more exprejudices as we go along being so richly supplied with illustrations of (to the chagrin of the semi-ts who claim this happens to the exclusion of, in unfair proportions, are fearmongering of a kind they completely dissociate themselves with, etcetera#) of the right but don't take any such measures; keep telling them all at once to go to school). More useful would be a course in autonomy; Dutch life in the simple handtool brandishing settler days of self sufficiency and communal stuff like dyke building (to be replaced with fun rock grinding). I'd not force a person without aptitude due to little or no cultural background in intellectual pursuits to stay put in school benches; I'd give all folks in the mentioned concrete deserts a gar p | 01.18.06 - 4:09 pm | #

Can i make one poin most of thoes rabbis are spehardi arab jews so much about you theory about it being all ashkenzai jews are the racist ones Anonymous | 01.18.06 - 4:26 pm | #

I'd not force a person without aptitude due to little or no cultural background in intellectual pursuits to stay put in school benches; I'd give all folks in the mentioned concrete deserts a garden sorta the size of the schrebergarten in the Viennese garden quarters (big enough to have a family fruit tree or two and always a choice to spend time in wellstocked libraries than follow obligatory courses. *Same goes for Shamir, who's defence of tactic diversity, similar to that of ChuckO the infoshop starter is (was, over a year ago) illustrated with stories about #nobody never did nor does nuttin; they are not responsible for each other except when impunity/opportunity calls; nobody knew nuttin about the real threat to van Gogh .. .. a real soap on which passed through short media circuitry last week, a fella who said lots knew and were involved denied after a few days and claimed he was put under pressure. I find it real odd none of these idiots knew any of the maroccans Theo van Gogh worked with (LOTS) and vice versa. Wish he would have found the support from the circles round the fella I first mentioned. Wish my exquisitely deep dutchness would have culminated in a change of mind on Bush and life for as well as movies with Theo. p | 01.18.06 - 4:28 pm | #

fixed a few mistakes I'd not force a person without aptitude due to little or no cultural background in intellectual pursuits to stay put in school benches; I'd give all folks in the mentioned concrete deserts a garden sorta the size of the schrebergarten in the Viennese garden quarters (big enough to have a family fruit tree or two) and always a choice to spend time in wellstocked libraries rather than follow obligatory courses. *Same goes for Shamir, who's defence of tactic diversity, similar to that of ChuckO the infoshop starter and and Ward Churchill, is (was, over a year ago) consisted of illustrations from early christianity: male and warlike half bringing justice, compassionate one bringing mercy, side by side (bull of course . .. I tried to theorize about such and for all I care named christian type crisis solving while NATO and Soros hit socialism: send out women with carriers to distribute handtools, knowledge whatnot and keep convincing strenght ready to pounce and punish if waylaid); I agree a dual course must be sought but this bloodshed bilge isnt any better than the stuff 'anglospherians' spout, about the wars between free and slave armies); all crap really cause the question is not just where and when to be soft or hard but must also and for completeness sake include what you will be soft and hard on/to (hard to the rock, soft to the seedlings; If luxurious times (like some of what I call mine, making a near as possible perfect website about it))) isn't used to draw the attention of present bloodshedders by pre-emptation of future flows (substitute muds and mists; bring back the 1000 year old cedars of lebanon, greens of the sahara, etcetera) fails to do so, even with guys like me around; I consider it all spark glamour and groomery misplaced waste, a sin and missed chance. I think my interpretation of the gospels is as valid as those that hammer on whatever Jesus might have done with a sword if he used that word at all meant by it (never mind the monomyth aspects now cause heroism IS a very tangible thing as anybody with a half way decent father knows.... wish my kids did/will). Destructive idiots (pyromaniacs, chronically dismissives, dissers i think they think themselves proudly and other reactionaries) are up for the chaingang ball park like the ones I have in mind but for starters or else, send the worst of them to the dutch or maroccan armies (their choice on a 3 strikes you're in basis) and the others) but give the others a real stay/anchor root, the type that privileged folks like me never even got cause church, commerce and parental authority rules and kids must follow gardening orders before inheriting anything. p | 01.18.06 - 5:34 pm | #

Piet, the context of universal and random labour migration, everywhere except in the Jewish zones of the world - not just IzRealHell, but any Jewish enclave anywhere, is protected by the fear of anti-semitism against incursions by have nots - is what is so hard to explain. I have shown, I think, that the myth of anti-semitism, endlessly repeated and amplified, allowed and even encouraged to become a self-fulfilling prophecy to some extent, is what makes this contradiction occur, but what is it that lies behind the myth? I think we are allowed to say that Jewishness invites its own nemesis, quite universally, and that zionism is just one modality of this nemesis which always masquerades as a 'solution to the problem of anti-semitism' but always ends up making it worse. But what is it in our spiritual constitution - all of us - that creates the Jew? certainly he did not fall out of the sky or spring from the ground at God's command. He is our reflection. And we are his. Hence the importance of Mahler's obscure Hegelian lucubrations. Rowan Berkeley | 01.18.06 - 6:05 pm | #

http://www.aftenposten.no/ englis...icle1196096.ece Condi to Norway: "Buy from Israel or we'll make you pay" (NO via Gorilla) p | 01.18.06 - 6:29 pm | #

zioviolution advocated by supporters of Hirsi Ali will be happy with her nobel nomination. p | 01.18.06 - 6:30 pm | #

lucubrate this a wee tad clearer please: "Piet, the context of universal and random labour migration, everywhere except in the Jewish zones of the world - not just IzRealHell, but any Jewish enclave anywhere, is protected by the fear of anti-semitism against incursions by have nots - is what is so hard to explain." For once I can return a favor and say that je ne comprends pas p | 01.18.06 - 6:36 pm | #

Why anyone would want a prize donated by the inventor of dynamite beats me. A doom filled essay by the gray eminence BEHIND Horst Mahler, on "America the Anti-Nation", here: http://www.deutsches-kolleg.org/ ...tureandfall.htm Rowan Berkeley | 01.18.06 - 6:37 pm | #

What I mean is that just the same dynamic forces everyone except the Jews to open themselves to free labour migration in and out of their erstwhile homelands, as allows the Jews to demand the exact opposite - no one in THEIR homeland except under their control. In both cases it is the ever present shadow of anti semitism and especially the holocaust myth - on the one hand it allows Jews to demand super secure enclaves and a super secure homeland, and on the other, it allows them to demand that everyone else be deprived of this, for fear that these other peoples will constitute themselves as non jewish, and hence potentially anti jewish, national blocs - especially the germans! Rowan Berkeley | 01.18.06 - 6:42 pm | #

Just to let you chickens know, early doors, that there is a 'Great Debates' programme tonight on BBC Radio 4 on the different approaches to achieving racial equality and justice, between the methods of Martin Luther King and Malcolm Dr Martin Luther King v Malcolm X The demi-g-ds of the ISM have adopted one of Malcolm's motto as their own, 'by any means necessary' - last weeks debate between Erasmus ( who is a personal fave of mine) and the original nasty old Martin Luther, viz a viz 'freedom' and 'predestination' as the Bible presents it, was ok actually - Also. you might enjoy the BBC Radio 4's In Our Time which is an exploration of themes by leading experts to do with all sorts of interesting ideas theories etc joe90 | Homepage | 01.18.06 - 7:01 pm | #

ok, get it now, so: Piet, the context of universal and random labour migration, everywhere except in the Jewish zones of the world - not just IzRealHell, but any Jewish enclave anywhere, is protected by the fear of anti-semitism against incursions by have nots - is what is so hard to explain. should be: Piet, the context of universal and random labour migration, everywhere except in the Jewish zones of the world - not just IzRealHell, but any Jewish enclave anywhere, WHICH ARE 'protected' by the fear of anti-semitism ARE OPEN TO incursions by have nots - is what is so hard to explain. or Piet, the context of universal and random labour migration is what is so hard to explain. in the Jewish zones of the world - not just IzRealHell, but any Jewish enclave anywhere - incursions by have nots are brutally beaten down to squash and yet in the name of anti-semitism (since it evokes the latter which it wouldn't were it not for worldwide double standards from which the wall will not effectively distract). p | 01.18.06 - 7:34 pm | #

In the Western attempts at Reform of the Calvinist type, the factor of social adeptness in the community was made absolute and the social success or failure of the individual taken as proof of his eternal salvation or his eternal damnation. The forceful establishment of this view of the World in its religious, World-political, and social-political forms, cleared the way for the transformation of the World into a refuse heap. By means of Capitalism and Democracy, all traditional arrangements are destroyed, the various peoples are converted into the refuse pile of the World Populatiom and the folk-economies into the trash heap of the management of World resources. Capitalism and Democracy have an uncurbed destructive power if they are not limited by thought patterns which are essentially foreign to them and are able to display their atomistic-quantitative peculiarity undisturbed. This atomistic World-view is concentrated totally upon the units of currency, by which Capital counts its funds and its winnings, and upon the number of votes by which democratic potential for rulership and its increase in power are measured. Democracy and Capital have this atomistic quantity-oriented thinking in common; it ends in the destruction of all goods and all peoples through their transformation into units of currency and into voters. The unification of currency for all World capital funds and the universal right of suffrage for all citizens of the World populatiom are the logical end-stage of the capitalistic-democratic way of thinking. In its estimation, a democracy is all the more legitimate, the greater the number of voters, and that is why democracy does not mean the control of a people over itself, but the destruction of all genuine peoples, who are then viewed as but a minority (as, perhaps, the Boers are seen today) whose rule over themselves is not permitted and must be sanctioned. (op. cit.) Rowan Berkeley | 01.18.06 - 7:43 pm | #

looks like John Zube the panarchist has an accolade he will never say stuff like he did about me about: 'with friends like these .. ..' richard (looks a bit like that diplomat I mentioned being on tv yesterday): This means that I would endorse any kind of Government as long as membership would be on a voluntary basis, at the expense only of its supporters. A communist Government for the communists, a 'welfare' Government for welfarists, a limited Government for minarchists, no Government for anarchists, or Muslim Government for Muslims, Catholic for Catholics, Buddhist for Buddhists etc., and all the varieties in between, all on a voluntary basis. That would put an end to so much ideological and religious antagonism. People would finally have the Government they want (or none), no matter where they lived. That is political freedom to me.* I advocate peaceful means in order to reach peace. In other words, to cite Le Grand E. Day: "Let it be clearly understood that this system must work and grow within the legal means of the already-established governments. The tools needed to bring about multigovernment are communications, not bloodshed; education, not violence; persuasion, not revolution. There is nothing in this thesis that advocates, suggests, or implies the overthrow of any existing government by force or violence." Piet: I did not really like his way of casting Beckerath et al in present day lingo (last oct in savehaven) but as he says, to each his own. p | 01.18.06 - 8:10 pm | #

down with the co-optation of co-operative capitalism pimpeach | 01.18.06 - 8:18 pm | #

let's hear it for a scot: http://thumpingthetub.blogspot.com/ pimpeach | 01.18.06 - 8:27 pm | #

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Noam Chomsky said Iran would be “crazy” not to develop nuclear weapons. Speaking Tuesday to an audience of over 1,000 at University College, Dublin — Ireland’s largest university — Chomsky said, “No sane person wants Iran to have nuclear weapons,” but added that the Islamic republic had to respond to alleged threats from Israel and the United States, both nuclear powers. Chomsky, a professor emeritus of linguistics at MIT, is in Ireland this week for a series of speaking engagements. -- “No sane person wants Iran to have nuclear weapons” eh? speak for yourself chumpsky Rowan Berkeley | 01.18.06 - 9:11 pm | #

A Jewish American’s experience in Zionist Israel: A Christian is permitted to preach the gospel in a church building, but for the clergy or anyone to even tell anyone about teachings in Bible outside the church building will bring a 5 years prison sentence. For a Christian to give a Bible or religious article to a Jew will also bring a 5 years sentence. Even an act of kindness by a Christian toward a Jew, such as giving a gift of food, can be interpreted as trying to convert the Jew to Christianity and can bring a 5 years prison sentence. This same law of religious suppression applies to those of the Islamic faith who in an act of kindness give a gift of any kind to a Jew. A 5 year prison sentence can result. http://www.holywar.org/txt/berns.../ bernstein.html Well, I know the ADL propagandists call him ‘liar’ and ‘self-hating Jew’. Shaukat | 01.18.06 - 9:32 pm | #

I thought Prof Chomsky was - but what is it you yourself mean, Rowan ? joe90 | Homepage | 01.18.06 - 10:15 pm | #

In case your wondering Rowan, I agree with the good Prof - but being an extremist I go further and say that both nuclear weapons, and the nuclear industries are all immoral - - nuclear research is all fine, grandy and dandy - where else would be able to find uses for all those lovely James Joyce Celtic-isms, such as -- 'bampots' - 'quarks' - 'jings' - 'crivvens' - and and the immortal 'help ma boab' joe90 | Homepage | 01.18.06 - 10:58 pm | #

Great article thecutter. This was the sort of speil that Goebbals and his pals were spouting on about, on their favourite defenceless innocent targets of German Jewish folk. Going back to that 'Flame' article by the estimable Jeff Blankfort - - can you image the uproar if it was an advert for the ethnic cleansing of Jewish folk from Poland - oh that's right, thats already been done hasn't it, and received the proper condemnation it deserves with the various culprits responsible punished where possible - - and no adverts will be placed on behalf of those that deny various events associated with the Nazi ethnic cleansing of Poland - PS although I didn't get a lot from Jeff's article on Prof Chomsky http://www.leftcurve.org/LC29Web...es/ Chomsky.html I think this is much better by Jeff The Power of The Israel Lobby: Two Viewpoints A debate between Prof. Stephen Zunes and Jeffrey Blankfort Stephen Zunes agrees with Prof Chomsky on the idea of Israel as a US 'strategic asset'. Anyway, I think it much better because US racism is discussed - I think that some of the folk who say they are 'anti-zionist' are just anti-Jewish racists - - as people know, I have no problems with how people want to express themselves - unless you're being deliberately difficult and obtuse about matters then the meaning of terms are pretty much clear in the context in which they are used joe90 | Homepage | 01.18.06 - 11:46 pm | #

peacerowan.blogspot.com seems to be coming along very nicely. Congratulations Rowan. Our Resident Wet | 01.19.06 - 1:34 am | #

I first got a computer - though not by my choice - about three years ago and, soon, I was revelling in an apparent ability to "talk" with people from all around the world ... who I naively imagined were being up-front, like most people are when face to face, or even on the telephone. What a fool I was, but at least I got to know that and started to discriminate between scoundrels like like Rowan and those who are really trying to find an answer (rather than some some throw-back to such failures as Hitler, Mussolini and - FFS - Disraeli). Are you fuckers so dense that you cannot see what what the autodidactic Rowan is doing Our Resident Wet | 01.19.06 - 7:49 am | #

BTW "our resident wet" has actually killed and has actually been part of some of what you wankers - not least Rowan - only pontificate about. Geez joe. You are a vegetarian, right? Get real! From where, the fuck, in Scotland, are you going to get a vegetarian diet, unless from a supermarket which imports vegetables from around the world? Dream world/nightmare world ... a nightmare world in which runts like Rowan can plot to mount a take-over, just like Mussolini, Hitler and GWB have ... and ALL of them failures, albeit that Rowan has been a great success in this puddle of a blog. Our Resident Wet | 01.19.06 - 8:05 am | #

"peacerowan.blogspot.com seems to be coming along very nicely. Congratulations Rowan. Our Resident Wet | 01.19.06 - 1:34 am | #" -- goodness me, Gerry, have you and Iblis started a blog simply to attack me? I am sincerely flattered, now I know I have arrived as a real presence in the blogosphere. Rowan Berkeley | 01.19.06 - 8:07 am | #

For connoisseurs of IzRealHell's bizarre political scene, I can offer the following, gleaned from my listening to Israel Army Radio : the mizrachi religious party, Shas, has launched a new jingle which appears to take advantage of the popular confusion between oriental jews and sephardi (spanish) ones - it begins with a couple of flamenco guitar arpeggios and a chorus shouting "olé!" Rowan Berkeley | 01.19.06 - 8:51 am | #